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151.Tena kho pana samayena chabbaggiyā bhikkhū saṅghamajjhe asammatā vinayaṃ pucchanti.
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Now on that occasion some Group-of-six monks, being unauthorized, asked about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha.
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Bhagavato etamatthaṃ ārocesuṃ.
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They reported the matter to the Blessed One.
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Na, bhikkhave, saṅghamajjhe asammatena vinayo pucchitabbo.
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“One who is unauthorized should not ask about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha by.
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Yo puccheyya, āpatti dukkaṭassa.
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Whoever should ask about it (unauthorized): an offense of wrong doing.
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Anujānāmi, bhikkhave, saṅghamajjhe sammatena vinayaṃ pucchituṃ.
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“I allow that one who is authorized ask about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha.”
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Evañca pana, bhikkhave, sammannitabbo – attanā vā [attanāva (syā.)] attānaṃ sammannitabbaṃ, parena vā paro sammannitabbo.
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“And, monks, he should be authorized like this: “One should authorize oneself or one (monk) should authorize another.
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Kathañca attanāva attānaṃ sammannitabbaṃ?
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“And how should one authorize oneself?
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Byattena bhikkhunā paṭibalena saṅgho ñāpetabbo –
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“An experienced and competent monk should inform the Saṅgha:
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"Suṇātu me, bhante, saṅgho.
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“‘Venerable sirs, may the Saṅgha listen to me.
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Yadi saṅghassa pattakallaṃ, ahaṃ itthannāmaṃ vinayaṃ puccheyya"nti.
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If the Saṅgha is ready, I would ask so-and-so about the Vinaya.’
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Evaṃ attanāva attānaṃ sammannitabbaṃ.
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“In this way one should authorize oneself.
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Kathañca parena paro sammannitabbo?
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“And how should one (monk) authorize another?
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Byattena bhikkhunā paṭibalena saṅgho ñāpetabbo –
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“An experienced and competent monk should inform the Saṅgha:
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"Suṇātu me, bhante, saṅgho.
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“‘Venerable sirs, may the Saṅgha listen to me.
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Yadi saṅghassa pattakallaṃ, itthannāmo itthannāmaṃ vinayaṃ puccheyyā"ti.
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If the Saṅgha is ready, so-and-so would ask so-and-so about the Vinaya.’
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Evaṃ parena paro sammannitabboti.
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“In this way one (monk) should authorize another.”
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Tena kho pana samayena pesalā bhikkhū saṅghamajjhe sammatā vinayaṃ pucchanti.
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Now on that occasion well-behaved monks, being authorized, asked about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha.
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Chabbaggiyā bhikkhū labhanti āghātaṃ, labhanti appaccayaṃ, vadhena tajjenti.
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Some Group-of-six monks became angered and unreasonable, and threatened them with a beating.
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Bhagavato etamatthaṃ ārocesuṃ.
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They reported the matter to the Blessed One.
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Anujānāmi, bhikkhave, saṅghamajjhe sammatenapi parisaṃ oloketvā puggalaṃ tulayitvā vinayaṃ pucchitunti.
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“Monks, I allow that one who is authorized ask about Vinaya in the midst of the Saṅgha after having looked over the assembly and having assessed the individuals.”
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