Что нового Оглавление Поиск Закладки Словарь Вход EN / RU
Адрес: Прочее >> Висуддхимагга (путь очищения) >> Висуддхимагга, том 1 >> 4. Описание касины земли >> Четвёртый уровень поглощённости >> Таблица   (Абзац)
пали Tathā hi nānāvajjane paṭhamajjhānupacāre niruddhassāpi dukkhindriyassa ḍaṃsamakasādisamphassena vā visamāsanupatāpena vā siyā uppatti, na tveva antoappanāyaṃ.
Nyanamoli thera 187. For accordingly, during the first jhāna access, which has multiple adverting, there could be rearising of the [bodily] pain faculty49 due to contact with gadflies, flies, etc. or the discomfort of an uneven seat, though that pain faculty had already ceased, but not so during absorption.
Комментарий оставлен 10.08.2021 22:06 автором khantibalo
Comm. NT: 49.
They say that with the words, ‘There could be the arising of the pain faculty,’ it is shown that since grief arises even in obtainers of jhāna,
it is demonstrated thereby that hate can exist without being a hindrance just as greed can;
for grief does not arise without hate.
Nor, they say, is there any conflict with the Paṭṭhāna text to be fancied here,
since what is shown there is only grief that occurs making lost jhāna its object because the grief that occurs making its object a jhāna that has not been lost is not relevant there.
And they say that it cannot be maintained that grief does not arise at all in those who have obtained jhāna since it did arise in Asita who had the eight attainments (Sn 691), and he was not one who had lost jhāna. So they say.
That is wrong because there is no hate without the nature of a hindrance.
If there were, it would arise in fine- material and immaterial beings, and it does not.
Accordingly when in such passages as, ‘In the immaterial state, due to the hindrance of lust there is the hindrance of stiffness and torpor … the hindrance of agitation, the hindrance of ignorance’ (Paṭṭh II 291), ill will and worry are not mentioned as hindrances,
that does not imply that they are not hindrances even by supposing that it was because lust, etc., were not actually hindrances and were called hindrances there figuratively because of resemblance to hindrances.
And it is no reason to argue, ‘it is because it arose in Asita,’ since there is falling away from jhāna with the arising of grief.
The way to regard that is that when the jhāna is lost for some trivial reason such men reinstate it without difficulty.