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"Taṃ kiṃ maññasi, māṇava, yaṃ vā tiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ paṭicca aggiṃ jāleyya yaṃ vā nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ aggiṃ jāleyya, katamo nu khvāssa aggi accimā ceva vaṇṇavā ca pabhassaro cā"ti? "Sace taṃ, bho gotama, ṭhānaṃ nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ aggiṃ jāletuṃ, svāssa aggi accimā ceva vaṇṇavā ca pabhassaro cā"ti. "Aṭṭhānaṃ kho etaṃ, māṇava, anavakāso yaṃ nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ aggiṃ jāleyya aññatra iddhimatā. Seyyathāpi, māṇava, tiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ paṭicca aggi jalati tathūpamāhaṃ, māṇava, imaṃ pītiṃ vadāmi yāyaṃ pīti pañca kāmaguṇe paṭicca. Seyyathāpi, māṇava, nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādāno [nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ paṭicca (sī. pī. ka.)] aggi jalati tathūpamāhaṃ, māṇava, imaṃ pītiṃ vadāmi yāyaṃ pīti aññatreva kāmehi aññatra akusalehi dhammehi.
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"Taṃ kiṃ maññasi, māṇava, yaṃ vā tiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ paṭicca aggiṃ jāleyya yaṃ vā nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ aggiṃ jāleyya, katamo nu khvāssa aggi accimā ceva vaṇṇavā ca pabhassaro cā"ti?
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17. "What do you think, student? Which of these two fires would have a [better] flame, colour, and radiance - a fire that might burn in dependence on fuel, such as grass and wood, or a fire that might burn independent of fuel, such as grass and wood? "
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"Sace taṃ, bho gotama, ṭhānaṃ nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ aggiṃ jāletuṃ, svāssa aggi accimā ceva vaṇṇavā ca pabhassaro cā"ti.
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"If it were possible, Master Gotama, for a fire to burn independent of fuel such as grass and wood, that fire would have a [better] flame, colour, and radiance."
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"Aṭṭhānaṃ kho etaṃ, māṇava, anavakāso yaṃ nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ aggiṃ jāleyya aññatra iddhimatā.
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"It is impossible, student, it cannot happen that a fire could burn independent of fuel such as grass or wood except through [the exercise of] supernormal power.
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Seyyathāpi, māṇava, tiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ paṭicca aggi jalati tathūpamāhaṃ, māṇava, imaṃ pītiṃ vadāmi yāyaṃ pīti pañca kāmaguṇe paṭicca.
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Like the fire that burns dependent on fuel such as grass and wood, I say, is the rapture that is dependent on the five cords of sensual pleasure.
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Seyyathāpi, māṇava, nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādāno [nissaṭṭhatiṇakaṭṭhupādānaṃ paṭicca (sī. pī. ka.)] aggi jalati tathūpamāhaṃ, māṇava, imaṃ pītiṃ vadāmi yāyaṃ pīti aññatreva kāmehi aññatra akusalehi dhammehi.
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Like the fire that burns independent of fuel such as grass and wood, I say, is the rapture that is apart from sensual pleasures, apart from unwholesome states.
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